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		<title>By: Rob Rasner IMDB</title>
		<link>http://theangle.org/2009/12/23/how-conroy-has-won-on-mandatory-internet-filtering/comment-page-1/#comment-13041</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Rasner IMDB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 May 2011 20:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool.. is there any more info on this matter How Conroy Has Won on Mandatory Internet Filtering &#124; theangle.org  Rgds ... Rob Rasner IMDB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool.. is there any more info on this matter How Conroy Has Won on Mandatory Internet Filtering | theangle.org  Rgds &#8230; Rob Rasner IMDB</p>
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		<title>By: The #Nocleanfeed campaign, DoS and political nous &#124; AlexWhite.org</title>
		<link>http://theangle.org/2009/12/23/how-conroy-has-won-on-mandatory-internet-filtering/comment-page-1/#comment-1208</link>
		<dc:creator>The #Nocleanfeed campaign, DoS and political nous &#124; AlexWhite.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 11:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Schlotzer from the ACTU and Greens Party has a similar concern about the campaign. To effectively respond it requires a coordinated, concerted and sustained approach; with a plan [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Schlotzer from the ACTU and Greens Party has a similar concern about the campaign. To effectively respond it requires a coordinated, concerted and sustained approach; with a plan [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://theangle.org/2009/12/23/how-conroy-has-won-on-mandatory-internet-filtering/comment-page-1/#comment-777</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 04:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex, &#039;mandatory&#039; - in the minds of anti-filter advocates - has only ever meant one thing; no opt-out option.

Whether it is mandatory for ISPs to &#039;offer&#039; a filter is irrelevant - ISPs are ALREADY forced by law to offer/provide PC filters.  So that would be a relatively insignificant change in policy.


The problem has always been that the government changed their policy to remove the opt-out option for users.

The policy only became mandatory censorship of &#039;users&#039; in October 2008.  You will also find that there was no sustained or major opposition to their policy until October 2008.

It was not in December 2007 as you claim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex, &#8216;mandatory&#8217; &#8211; in the minds of anti-filter advocates &#8211; has only ever meant one thing; no opt-out option.</p>
<p>Whether it is mandatory for ISPs to &#8216;offer&#8217; a filter is irrelevant &#8211; ISPs are ALREADY forced by law to offer/provide PC filters.  So that would be a relatively insignificant change in policy.</p>
<p>The problem has always been that the government changed their policy to remove the opt-out option for users.</p>
<p>The policy only became mandatory censorship of &#8216;users&#8217; in October 2008.  You will also find that there was no sustained or major opposition to their policy until October 2008.</p>
<p>It was not in December 2007 as you claim.</p>
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		<title>By: Begin Rant: Taking control of the campaign against Internet Censorship &#171; Begin Rant:</title>
		<link>http://theangle.org/2009/12/23/how-conroy-has-won-on-mandatory-internet-filtering/comment-page-1/#comment-772</link>
		<dc:creator>Begin Rant: Taking control of the campaign against Internet Censorship &#171; Begin Rant:</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 06:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for example: http://theangle.org/2009/12/23/how-conroy-has-won-on-mandatory-internet-filtering/ http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/01/06/the-no-clean-feed-campaign/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] for example: <a href="http://theangle.org/2009/12/23/how-conroy-has-won-on-mandatory-internet-filtering/" rel="nofollow">http://theangle.org/2009/12/23/how-conroy-has-won-on-mandatory-internet-filtering/</a> <a href="http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/01/06/the-no-clean-feed-campaign/" rel="nofollow">http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/01/06/the-no-clean-feed-campaign/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: alexschlotzer</title>
		<link>http://theangle.org/2009/12/23/how-conroy-has-won-on-mandatory-internet-filtering/comment-page-1/#comment-766</link>
		<dc:creator>alexschlotzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 05:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for those links Richard but reading the ABC&#039;s item quite clearly states in the second paragraph: 
 
&quot;Senator Conroy says it will be mandatory for all internet service providers to provide clean feeds, or ISP filtering, to houses and schools that are free of pornography and inappropriate material.&quot; 
 
Only further down does it state that if people don&#039;t want uncensored Internet then those people have to opt out. This is a very big difference. It is mandatory unless you specifically opt out meaning you would have had to actively seek to opt out and know when the filter is turned on to have done so. 
 
Kate Lundy spends her post debating semantics while reconciling ALP policy with Conroy&#039;s filter scheme.  While it&#039;s excellent she&#039;s prepared to blog about it she maintains the party line. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for those links Richard but reading the ABC&#039;s item quite clearly states in the second paragraph: </p>
<p>&quot;Senator Conroy says it will be mandatory for all internet service providers to provide clean feeds, or ISP filtering, to houses and schools that are free of pornography and inappropriate material.&quot; </p>
<p>Only further down does it state that if people don&#039;t want uncensored Internet then those people have to opt out. This is a very big difference. It is mandatory unless you specifically opt out meaning you would have had to actively seek to opt out and know when the filter is turned on to have done so. </p>
<p>Kate Lundy spends her post debating semantics while reconciling ALP policy with Conroy&#039;s filter scheme.  While it&#039;s excellent she&#039;s prepared to blog about it she maintains the party line.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://theangle.org/2009/12/23/how-conroy-has-won-on-mandatory-internet-filtering/comment-page-1/#comment-765</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 05:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both the ABC and Kate Lundy (ALP) provide evidence that the filter was never a mandatory one in 2007: 
 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/12/31/2129471.htm&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/12/31/212...&lt;/a&gt; 
 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.katelundy.com.au/2009/12/21/further-thoughts-on-the-filter/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.katelundy.com.au/2009/12/21/further-th...&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both the ABC and Kate Lundy (ALP) provide evidence that the filter was never a mandatory one in 2007: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/12/31/2129471.htm" target="_blank">http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/12/31/212&#8230;</a> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.katelundy.com.au/2009/12/21/further-thoughts-on-the-filter/" target="_blank">http://www.katelundy.com.au/2009/12/21/further-th&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://theangle.org/2009/12/23/how-conroy-has-won-on-mandatory-internet-filtering/comment-page-1/#comment-764</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 05:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex - Conroy only announced a NON-mandatory filter in December 2007 - not a mandatory one. 
 
It was in October 2008 that the mandatory filter was announced. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex &#8211; Conroy only announced a NON-mandatory filter in December 2007 &#8211; not a mandatory one. </p>
<p>It was in October 2008 that the mandatory filter was announced.</p>
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		<title>By: alexschlotzer</title>
		<link>http://theangle.org/2009/12/23/how-conroy-has-won-on-mandatory-internet-filtering/comment-page-1/#comment-761</link>
		<dc:creator>alexschlotzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 01:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a few more sites I&#039;ve just found: 
 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dlc.asn.au/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.dlc.asn.au/&lt;/a&gt; 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://bluebutton.org.au/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://bluebutton.org.au/&lt;/a&gt; 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://nocensorship.info/main/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://nocensorship.info/main/&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#039;s a few more sites I&#039;ve just found: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.dlc.asn.au/" target="_blank">http://www.dlc.asn.au/</a><br />
<a href="http://bluebutton.org.au/" target="_blank">http://bluebutton.org.au/</a><br />
<a href="http://nocensorship.info/main/" target="_blank">http://nocensorship.info/main/</a></p>
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		<title>By: alexschlotzer</title>
		<link>http://theangle.org/2009/12/23/how-conroy-has-won-on-mandatory-internet-filtering/comment-page-1/#comment-744</link>
		<dc:creator>alexschlotzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 06:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you Rob about a serious political heavy weight getting in behind the campaign being a big boost.  However, I think a bigger boost could be made to the campaign in some big business heavy weights were to get in behind the campaign. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you Rob about a serious political heavy weight getting in behind the campaign being a big boost.  However, I think a bigger boost could be made to the campaign in some big business heavy weights were to get in behind the campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: alexschlotzer</title>
		<link>http://theangle.org/2009/12/23/how-conroy-has-won-on-mandatory-internet-filtering/comment-page-1/#comment-743</link>
		<dc:creator>alexschlotzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 06:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for noting those additional sites to check out.  The one site I follow for this is EFA&#039;s as my preferred source of information. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for noting those additional sites to check out.  The one site I follow for this is EFA&#039;s as my preferred source of information.</p>
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